Comments on: How to stream TIDAL to the Raspberry Pi

By: John

John — Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:32:49 +0000

My setup is that I have connected my Raspberry Pi running PiCorePlayer with RCA to my speakers.
I bought iPeng for my iPhone and iPad.
Because I have a Tidal HiFi subscription, at least I can stream FLAC (I see that in my Logitech Media Server playback information). To make this happen, I have installed the Tidal Plugin for LMS.

My question, what is the advantage for me to add BubbleUpnp Server to my setup? iPeng is acting as a sort of Tidal Connect, right? I mean, iPeng is not sending a stream via BT to my Logitech MediaServer, but it streams the song directly from Tidal (as the RPi is a network streamer).

Second question, how can I make it happen that I can stream Master quality / MQA? Do I need a USB DAC for that? Or can I make it happen on the RPi somewhere?

By: Gianpaolo Pellicci

Gianpaolo Pellicci — Sat, 25 Jul 2020 17:16:24 +0000

Great!!! Thanks for sharing this enlightening guide

By: John Reekie

John Reekie — Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:48:26 +0000

Hi Philip, I think it may be possible if you use BubbleUPnP on the Android device. Although the Android devices would need to be on all the time. Perhaps give it a try and let us know?

By: Philip

Philip — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:52:12 +0000

Hi there – I think others might have asked something similar, but would it be possible to control the pi running volumio from android directly, and have volumio on the pi utilise Tidal directly? Thanks for the article.

By: John Reekie

John Reekie — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 04:25:08 +0000

And to add another update, it does work on a Mac (having BubbleUPnPServer and Kazoo running on the same machine). I’ll add a note to the article about Windows.

By: John Reekie

John Reekie — Mon, 04 Mar 2019 04:05:08 +0000

Hi Chris, glad to hear you found a solution, I think running BubbleUPnPServer on a separate SBC is a good idea. I usually run it on the same SBC as my music server (minimserver). I tried opening up Windows firewall ports to enable Kazoo to “see” the OpenHome renderer from BubbleUPnPServer but had no success.

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Sun, 03 Mar 2019 15:15:58 +0000

Hi John. Here’s one more sign-post with updates, in case others want to do something similar. I was not satisfied with the solution of running BubbleUPnP server on a separate laptop, because that’s too many things to boot for playing music. So, yesterday I bought another raspberry pi and successfully set it up to run BubbleUpNp server. Basically, I installed Rasbpian lite and set it up for SSH (by adding a blank file call SSH in the boot folder) so I could use it without a monitor. Next, I SSH’d to it with Putty (from Windows) and followed the steps for installing BubbleUPnP on a Debian system that are on the Bubblesoft website. This involved installing Java and downloading and installing the bubbleupnp package. After that, I figured out the internal IP address for my new pi by looking at the device table in my router configuration. Finally, I used my laptop to browse to http://[raspberry pi address]:58050 and configured it as you described. So now, here’s what I’ve got:
1. A Raspberry Pi running Volumio, attached to my stereo system.
2. A second Raspberry Pi running Raspbian and BubbleUPnP, which is configured to set the Volumio renderer as an OpenHome point.
3. Linn Kazoo on my laptop as the control point.
I now can listen to Quobuz music and save favorites directly through the Kazoo app.
As an afterthought, once I learned how to install BubbleUPnP on a Raspberry Pi, it dawned on me that I probably could have just installed it on original one that’s running Volumio. I haven’t tried this yet, but a little more googling revealed that someone else has already created a third-party plug-in for BubbleUPnP on Volumio (though it isn’t officially sanctioned by the Volumio team–they want you to use myvolumio instead). So, I guess the takeaway is that it might be possible to run BubbleUPnP on the same device as the renderer, but I could find no information on how to run it on the same device as the control point. Thanks again for setting me on this path!

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:26:35 +0000

Thanks. I don’t know if it’s the firewall, because I created a rule to allow all traffic to 58050, and it still did not work. I think it requires some kind of port forwarding back to the localhost, but that’s beyond my skill level. Maybe there’s no way to have the control point on the same device as the server. For now, I am using my other laptop to run BubbleUPnP, and my main laptop has Linn Kazoo. At least with this setup I can stream directly to my raspberry pi. Thanks again! I really appreciate this post.

By: John Reekie

John Reekie — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 02:18:20 +0000

Hi Chris, glad the article was helpful! I haven’t seen anything like that. Is it possible that it’s something to do with Windows firewall? (I don’t know, this is the only thing I can think of.)

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Sun, 24 Feb 2019 07:17:06 +0000

Thank you for this step-by-step tutorial! I would never have gotten as far as I have without it. However, I’m still not quite where I want to be. I have an rpi2 with volumio. On a Windows laptop, I have Bubbleupnp running with the Volumio renderer enabled as OpenHome, just as you showed. However, Linn Kazoo, which is on the same laptop that is running Bubbleupnp, does not see the OpenHome renderer (it only sees the original Volumio). I know I’m close, though, because I installed Linn Kazoo on a separate Windows laptop, and that one sees my OpenHome renderer from the first laptop. I am able to log into and play Tidal and Qobuz from there. If I can just figure out how to make the server and control point work together on the same laptop, I’ll be happy. Do you have any suggestions?